| That was the «Kansas City Stomp.» | 
| You may notice that
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| In playing jazz, the breaks are one of the most
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| Essential things that you can ever do in jazz. | 
| Without
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| Breaks and without clean breaks, without beautiful
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| Ideas in breaks, you don’t need to even think about
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| Doin' anything else. | 
| If you can’t have a decent break
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| You haven’t got a jazz band, or you can’t even play
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| Jazz
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| Show us a good break, Jelly
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| Now that’s what you’d call a pretty good break. | 
| For
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| Instance, I’ll play just a little bit of a melody of
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| Somethin' and show you
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| That’s what you’d call a break. | 
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| Maybe I’d better play something that you can understand
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| More. | 
| For instance, «Strutters' Ball.»
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| I made those blakes. | 
| .. breaks kind of clean, because
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| The fact of it is, everybody knows this tune and they
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| Know how it’s played and they’ll know where the breaks
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| Come in
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| Without a break you have nothing. | 
| Even if a tune have
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| No break in it, it is always necessary to arrange some
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| Kind of a spot to make a break. | 
| Because without a
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| Break, as I said before, you haven’t gotten jazz. | 
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| And, er, your accurate tempos with your backgrounds of
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| Your figures, which is called riffs today. | 
| Of course
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| That, that happens to be a musical term — riffs
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| What’s the difference between a riff and a break?
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| Aren’t they about the same thing?
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| Oh, no, no. | 
| There’s a difference, er, a riff is a
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| Background. | 
| A riff is what you would call a foundation
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| As, like you would walk on. | 
| It’s something that’s
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| Standard. | 
| And a break is something that you break. | 
| When
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| You make the break — that means all the band break
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| With maybe one, two, or three instruments. | 
| It depends
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| Upon how the combination is arranged. | 
| And as you, as
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| The band breaks, you have a set, given time, possibly
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| Two bars, to make the break
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| Isn’t. | 
| .. isn’t the break what you. | 
| .. when you
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| When you make break, isn’t that what you mean by
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| Swinging?
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| No, no, that’s not what swing is. | 
| Swing don’t mean
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| That. | 
| Swing means something like this: |